For another (Ravens), its a bunch of iterations of the same basic task (a kind of visual puzzle with one piece missing), described here. My current boss. Some of the software I am running to handle those tasks manually requires huge amounts of processing power, resolution, intelligence, and or ability to abstract. (I have predicted conversations, but only because the other person forgot we already had it. Perhaps whats happening is that the genetic factors passed along are responsible for generally supporting IQ, but high IQ parents are having children later in life for some reason (more years of schooling than average, early stage demanding careers, saving a nest egg before starting a family). it separates ASD, ADHD, and ID (intellectual disorder). too many CAG repeats and the area destabilizes and you get runaway anticipation that wipes out later generations of your family. I have many fewer data points on low functioning autistic people, who I have mostly met through church. However, if too many such genes coincide in the same individual, then A exceeds its optimum of 10. I am a highly educated (PhD) male parent of a son with autism (aged 17 so in high school), who is in a Special Education class, so I fit the phenotype described here. This is more or less a requirement if the system is to be robust and quickly adaptable to environmental variation. Its talked through in detail here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd54l8gfi7M). Even if the definition is good, people who function poorly are more likely to seek out (or be coerced into) psychiatric treatment, and so are more likely to be identified. If youre trying to compare the IQs of parents and children, you need to have both the parents and children, and be sure that the parents are in fact the parents of the children in question. Fortunately, at home, I can act how I want, which recharges me significantly. ), There is a (high functioning) autistic musician named Henny Kupferstein who spends a lot of time teaching piano to autistic kids. One study found that 69% of autistic people had an IQ below 85 (the average IQ of a high school dropout). Take these away and you arrive at something that seems like an effortless confidence and freedom. Plausibly, a certain amount of narrowness and rigidity of focus will improve cognitive performance, whereas too much will cause impairment by making it too hard to get the big picture, switch attention and deal with competing stimuli etc. Thats exactly what we observe here. If the extreme male brain hypothesis is true, then those girls have unusually masculinized brains. More copies of a good gene are almost universally detrimental. But the Gardner study also ceilings off at 90th percentile intelligence, so at this point Im not sure what to tell these people. Autism-risk genes may just be plumping up the middle tiers, those who are noticeably intelligent but not staggering one-in-a-million test cases. Because he was as skilled as me, and had real muscles. how could they recruit in such a way as to get a representative sample? Sure, most of them. So the only question is whether the size of the effect is enough to fully explain the data or whether, even after adjusting out the degree to which autism is caused by mutations and environment, it still decreases IQ. About impulse control, there are two strategies being selected for here, one featuring low impulse control(the classic idiocracy strategy) and another (the religious socially conservative strategy) featuring high impulse control: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X18300976. A mutation in the pigment for the red cone allows a person to see two shades of red. Having more diverse cones means that they can differentiate shades of red that other people would see as identical. Maybe this is a tower collapse event. An analogy: Imagine you have a sound system with a microphone, speakers, and a mixing board. Girls also get autism, but seem to stay undiagnosed much more often. B4X is a free and open source developer tool that allows users to write apps for Android, iOS, and more. On the first level its obviously because of the genetic abnormalities they have, but its not like we could look at those gene differences and predict that those features would develop in that way. Ive known people who were very mathematically and/or technically inclined who had poor social skills. Gifted children dont always have gifted families, though. Indeed, higher survival rates over time might also explain why were seeing a real increase in the number of autistic children over time more of them are living long enough to be diagnosed with autism in the first place. Honestly, your genius doesnt sound very good at digging into people. Wheat something something something autism and schizophrenia. Lots of bright nerdy tech-aligned people dont. So, one can see how this would obviously lead to an increase in autoimmunity, but in one of the later chapters AEoA, Velazquez-Manoff also shows how autism (a least a lot of the time) is an inflammatory condition: for instance, autopsies uniformly showing neural inflammation, people with ASDs are more likely to develop autoimmune diseases than the general population and are more likely to have family members with autoimmune diseases, and for a few subjects treatment with immune-modulating intestinal worms providing some symptom relief even. Her claim was that autistics often did *way* better on Ravens than on the multiple subtest kind of IQ test. Either way, I dont think you can have one without the other above a certain level. I would say that 80% of them carry a fair amount of weirdness with them, which shows in speech impediments, idiosyncratic/shitty clothing styles and obsessions with bizarre topics. unsurprisingly, ID is inversely correlated with IQ; ADHD also shows a strong inverse correlation with IQ. I didnt understand why you left out the actual finding, which seems to be an important fact to note. This article explores piano lessons for non-verbal and autistic students as a means for creating new and necessary pathways for abstract logic inherent in higher education. Note that due to conflict of interest she doesn't treat people in the NYC rationalist social scene. Someone at the 99.0 percentile for intelligence would probably seem quite mediocre by SSC standards. There is also some link to male sex, I do believe that there are higher levels of males with low intelligence autism. If you're interested in testing yourself and contributing to their project, check out their questions page. My oldest child, a boy, is very high functioning. Two of these are diagnosed as autistic, though with very different forms. I think an important possibility to consider is that some or all of the correlation were observing is simply due to bias in the data were using, rather than any actual relationship between high IQ and autism. If you are an expert in X, and the popular understanding of X is X, you will end up having the exact same conversation about X every time. Why on Earth one would assume that the effect of genes that contribute to IQ should be linearly additive and increasing to ad infinitum. Or if (as really happens) it turns out that smart, ambitious people usually have their kids a decade later than dumb, unambitious people and usually the smart, ambitious people only have enough time in their fertility window for one kid while the dumb ones have time for three. These three buckets and a few other less important factors combine to determine autism risk for any individual. Precision of it? It doesnt really present much evidence for this other than that autistic people seem to have high perceptual intelligence. Of course people like that exist. More, you have probably already settled into an existence that minimizes their importance to you by the time you have enough information to piece together the importance of predictability. And that finds that only 15% have intellectual disabilities. Trump = President Camacho, the contemporary media is just as idiotic as the media in that movie, etc. Theres a new paper out on how the frequency of variants that affect educational achievement (which also affect IQ) have been changing over time in Iceland. And since mental traits like intelligence, social aptitude, and self-control are the ones most likely to be selected for in society, it makes sense that our imbalances would primarily be mental. You underestimate the potential of a good emulation, I think. We dont have all those variants identified yet, but from the fraction we do know and the rate of change, they estimate that genetic potential for IQ is dropping about 0.30 point per decade 3 points per century, about a point a generation. Norwegian founders with an international team on a mission to offer the equivalent of a Norwegian social safety net globally available as a membership. Non-verbal people requiring institutionalization? The Charman et al study finds a correlation between autism and low IQ, by starting with a sample of autistic people and looking at their IQs. Because they survived due to wearing helmets, and we were only measuring *surviving* soldiers, helmets appeared to increase the number of head injuries, rather than decrease their severity. As long as I kept useful inventions flowing out of my lab, I think hed pay me well and insulate me from social criticism. This is consistent with the existence of people in the past who seem to be about as bright as humans get. We have another child who shows no autistic traits. (*), Its not hard to measure my IQ, except that it generally falls at the top of the scale where the tests dont make effective distinctions. Of the 5 relatives, how many are males? That leads me to the following guess. And yes, I know the survey showed that the average SSC reader had an IQ of 138, but Im extremely skeptical of that finding too. This can best be understood through a tower-versus-foundation model where higher intelligence that outstrips the ability of some mysterious foundation to support it will result in autism (25% confidence), 6. why is the medical establishment making confident claims regarding the connection between his condition and high-functioning autism? Shes capable of living without a caretaker, but other than that, the impact on her quality of life seems pretty serious. Tongue in cheek (Swift Modest Proposal) style interventions given this model are: If this is good, then by definition, more at the margin will be better. 2. For example, they are not extremely aggressive, but tend to be gentle individuals. The only reason social rituals are important is because other people say that theyre important, and historically it was important for high-intelligence people to be able to get along with low intelligence people or they would be outcast from the tribe and die. Under the DSM-5, autism is characterized by persistent deficits in social communication and interaction across multiple contexts, as well as restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities. Normal is being concerned enough with appearing normal to try being normal, yes. Over the vast majority of the range of the main volume knob on the mixer (assuming the system is set up reasonably), more will be better. It also becomes meaningless to say that no highly intelligent people are normal, since by definition, highly intelligent people will think in different ways than people with average intelligence. 9 hours ago View Detailed Check-in. You dont need to be an absolute dictator or god-king to be able to ignore social norms all you need is lots of money. the Council for Evidence-Based Psychiatry in the UK on the lack of validity of diagnostic categories in psychiatry http://cepuk.org/unrecognised-facts/diagnostic-system-lacks-validity/). The damn thing has basically come true! So, part of people's problem is with the origins of ABA. I favour the Maxander description of the genetic defect in autism, too much brain development can be bad. There simply haven't been any large, decent-quality studies showing that children in ABA show significant improvements over children not in ABA. the non-verbal. I talk more about this in parts 2 and 3 here. In Graph A, we see that if a child has autism (but not intellectual disability), their likelihood of having a father with any particular IQ (orange line) is almost the same as the likelihood of a neurotypical child having a father of that IQ (dotted line). If e.g. High IQs appear to be selected for, as does ASD; while the the survival advantage of the first is obvious, the second is a really high cost to pay from a fitness standpoint, and Im skeptical that the IQ on its own would be worth it as a survival advantage. I think the study chosen to show low IQ is really common in autism is a really weird one, and probably a sampling issue. These deficits are present in early childhood, typically before age three, and lead to clinically significant functional impairment. Theres a lot of work left to do to sort out what being autistic actually means. Giving What We Can is a charitable movement promoting giving some of your money to the developing world or other worthy causes. My understanding is that gender dysphoria is associated with certain structures or traits of the brain- transwomen tend to have certain identifiable feminized brain structures, and transmen to have masculinized brain structures. Being a carrier for cystic fibrosis may be protective against cholera. Has anyone here actually met a highly intelligent person who is genuinely normal? I have read before that age of parents increases risk of autism. My personal bet would be that different sorts of mutations associated with autism could be slotted into abstract prior-mapping-affecting categories manifesting through tiny quirks of cellular chemistry, and some degree of interplay between them and those that affect general nervous tissue metabolism and anatomy might also be the case. Many people she knew, she said, felt duped by psychiatrists, for example, who they felt. Many such cases with Aspergers (me too), whereas for high functioning autism the deficit is inverted for processing vs visuo-spatial. You can squeeze out a little more gain by filtering just the frequencies that feed back, but if you keep going up it wont take long at all before there are too many to filter. 4. So the technically autistic community could well be more intelligent on average than the general population, with the people who are actually labeled autistic being a particularly low-functioning subset of that population. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if he was a rationalist himself. But they offer a way of grouping types of problem kids that has caught on. How much effort do people, particularly young people, put into being normal that is, into fitting in? If the foundation isnt strong enough for the tower, the system fails, you develop autism, and you get a collection of symptoms possibly including low intelligence. We often joke that my son learned English as a second language, it appeared that his primary language acquisition pathway just wasnt there. IQb + high genetic load: autism with lowish IQ, always diagnosed as autist Think about it this way: When most other people behave incomprehensible for you because they dont see the same emotional nuances and act on their impulses, it is hard to learn social customs, even though you theoretically have the potential to be very skilled socially. The Western world (taken to mean Europe and the Anglosphere) comprises roughly 1/6th of the global population, which means there should be about 125,000 Westerners who are both incredibly smart and incredibly charismatic. autism is effectively what we call people whose mental resolution (in the sense of pixels per inch) is too high. We're always hiring talented programmers, traders, and researchers and have internships and fulltime positions in New York, London, and Hong Kong. What is going on? So for example, bench is largely worthless if youre not pushing people away from you. AISafety.com hosts a Skype reading group Wednesdays at 19:45 UTC, reading new and old articles on different aspects of AI Safety. ASD has no reliable early predictor, no unitary developmental course, no unitary life outcome, no unitary recurrence risk, no unitary pattern of BAP features, and no standard homogeneous subgroups. Quite a few trans women seem to be extremely masculine in their interests. Maybe the pattern is something like this (calling rare IQ/autism boosting alleles IQb): The best civil servants get an extra allowance of weirdness points to allocate as necessary. The additive proportion for height is likely higher. people that are 30% autistic have average IQ X. required to answer an examiners quetsions[sic]. Optimizing a complicated biological machinery thing to do whatever intelligence is most likely a very difficult thing for that machine to do. These questions interest me because I know a lot of people who are bright nerdy programmers married to other bright nerdy programmers, and sometimes they ask me if their children are at higher risk for autism. There are maybe as many as 1000 of them in the Western world, and none of them would want to ever hang out with us because they are smart enough to know that their time would be better spent managing their billion-dollar corporations and/or governments. a sort of arrangement where if you pick up to four of them you get enhanced intelligence, five or six and you get high-functioning intelligent autism, and seven or more and your brain crashes on boot-up and the autism stops you from functioning. Im not suggesting this accounts for the high/low intelligence as the sample size was small. Im going to interpret fitting in as being liked.. This is very very crude model that does not take into account how DNA and sexual reproduction works: it is middle of the night and that stuff is not my strong suit; however, I like this description and with my limited understanding, it may even carry some resemblance to reality: I will bet a considerable sum of money that a model where one simply assumes that Q = f(g_1, g_n) = a_1 g_1 + + a_n g_n for unknown constants a_i does not describe how these parameters affect intelligence (get all g_i that are positively correlated with IQ, combine them, and you get a super-enlightened being!). Knowing how much of the genetic variance in intelligence (say IQ for an easy measure) is additive is probably good enough to figure out how off the purely linear assumption is. But African slaves survived. These are just three randomly-selected studies; there are too many to be worth listing. Autism (especially Asperger's) is basically a vanity diagnosis these days. Thats sounds like a significant amount of epistasis in IQ, so I agree its not that weird that a few people end up very different than youd expect from a purely additive genetics + additive environment model. Increased parental age correlates with autism risk, AIUI. The strong differences in estimated SNP heritability between ASD cases with and without intellectual disability, and highest in Aspergers provide genetic evidence of longstanding observations. In the 1800s, the average US man weighed about 155 lbs. This requires a strongly non-linear sensitivity to hyperparameters, which is unusual for the fitness w.r.t. (remember that no intellectual disability just means IQ over 70, and so many of these not-intellectually-disabled people may still have low intelligence I wish the paper had quantified this). paternal IQ/ autism seems pretty much decorrelated, which is strange given the 100% confidence that autism genes are IQ boosting. There are huge practical and financial incentives within our system to diagnose all of these sets of kids with some kind of medicalized disorder, regardless of whether any underlying physical mechanism is understood or present (and sometimes it is, but many different developmental issues can lead you down each of these roads). This fits with my observations of my family (parents, siblings, kids) and other science majors in college. I would recommend having girls through IVF if that is legally allowed in your jurisdiction? Thats assuming that we do have a missing group of geniusesIm not sure how we track these things, or who you are counting as a genius. i do wish you wouldnt use the phrase autism risk. Graph B is the same thing, but with people have have autism with intellectual disability.

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